I tried dropping them in QED on my machine and they all work as expected. A couple of them say not implemented. Didn't know how handy that was to get a printable list of cookies. Cool. So maybe a bug has been introduced in the kernal at some point. I have not swapped out my kernal since Ozk when on his very first sabbatical. ;-) -- Lonny Pursell http://www.bright.net/~gfabasic/